What is a Fascist?

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Re: What is a Fascist?

Postby Dave on Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:46 pm

Meh. Many of my fellow art students in college thought I was a facist (among other things).

My voting record, and some silly online test ;) has me pegged as very close to Socialist (heavy Democratic bent).

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Re: What is a Fascist?

Postby steve on Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:01 pm

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Moderate
(55% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(31% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.
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Re: What is a Fascist?

Postby MadCat on Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:04 pm

Weeeeird.... I went ahead and took the test, and got:
Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(73% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(18% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Socialist


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


I'm a bit surprised by that result in some ways, but not in others. I'm confused why 18% is considered 'liberal' like 73% though. That seems like a big disparity. I'd also like to see a better definition of the terms. I'm not sure I agree 100% with the results, but it's always interesting to see what I get.
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Re: What is a Fascist?

Postby steve on Tue Apr 29, 2008 9:51 pm

David Yun wrote:Ideologically, fascism and communism are at the extreme polar opposites of the political spectrum. The base citizen has no rights in either, but for completely different reasons.

Steve, I'm assuming that person called you a "fascist" because you actually believe in something. In our current atmosphere of "everyone is right, nothing is wrong" relativity, taking any stance by advancing an absolute can be unpopular.


Thank you Dee for the definition. It was hard to understand when they used other terms I was unfamiliar with as well. I felt like I'd have to take a lesson in government just to get a basic concept.
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Re: What is a Fascist?

Postby Yino on Thu May 01, 2008 4:21 am

Your true political self:
You are a

Social Liberal
(70% permissive)

and an...

Economic Liberal
(38% permissive)

You are best described as a:

Democrat


You exhibit a very well-developed sense of Right and Wrong and believe in economic fairness.


Not surprised really.

But I have to disagree with you Dee, In communism the main forbidden right is the private property because in a communist government there's no free trade, but all the other rights are there, and in fact they are quite strongly (health, education, etc). Now, how there's no private property the state is the owner of everything so the people is quite dependant of the government, that's why some people think there are no rights at all (some communist governments use this to give a hard time to the opposition)
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Re: What is a Fascist?

Postby David Yun on Thu May 01, 2008 5:25 am

I'd have to disagree right back, Yino :)

Without getting all "Animal Farm" preachy, the difference between the stated powers of the communist government, and the actual practice thereof were decidedly different. I'm talking about the Soviet Union, naturally. The government's control of individual freedoms greatly surpassed those of mere property rights. If we were discussing other states, such as China, Cuba, or North Korea, the situation would vary a great deal for each one. They all profess to be communist states, but bear only passing resemblance to each other and to the former Soviet Union.
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Re: What is a Fascist?

Postby Yino on Thu May 01, 2008 6:29 am

Oh well, that argument applies to almost any government really. The practice usually differs from the ideology behind it. But ideologically speaking, my point is right, yours is right in practice :P hehehe
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Re: What is a Fascist?

Postby David Yun on Thu May 01, 2008 6:35 am

Oh! Well :)

In terms of ideology, I'm all for cooperation!
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Re: What is a Fascist?

Postby MadCat on Thu May 01, 2008 7:10 am

Yeah, it always seemed to me that Communism got a bad reputation, but every government I've seen calling itself Communist was actually a Dictatorship paying bare lip service to Communism, but not actually practicing any of its ideals.

The ideology behind socialism sounds good to me, but it seems very difficult to put into practice. I definitely endorse cooperation and making sure everyone is taken care of and comfortable while no one is unfairly burdened. It's a difficult balancing act.
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Re: What is a Fascist?

Postby David Yun on Thu May 01, 2008 10:38 am

Unfortunately, the avarice that lies at the heart of every human being prevents us from cooperating unless it is for 1) mutual survival or 2) competition with another group. Churchill nailed it when he said, "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
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